In this feature where we take two movies with similar themes (or an original and a remake) and pit them against each other in different film-making categories to see which comes out on top! This time we honor the 4th of July with two flag-waving movies by a horrible director from Germany:
Independence Day trailer
The Patriot trailer
Cast
Independence Day: Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, Randy Quaid, Judd Hirsch, Vivica A. Fox, Harvey Fierstein, Adam Baldwin
The Patriot: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger, Jason Isaacs, Joely RIchardson, Chris Cooper, Adam Baldwin
Heath Ledger was just breaking out as an actor, and Mel Gibson was not yet publically crazy, but Jeff Goldblum.
Point: Independence Day
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Directing
Independence Day: Roland Emmerich (The Patriot, Godzilla, 10,000 B.C.), who if nothing else, well, definitely nothing else, knows how to film a disaster scene, and this movie is obviously chock full of them. It’s the people he has trouble filming.
The Patriot: Roland Emmerich (Independence Day, 2012, Universal Soldier) was forced to direct a few scenes in this that conveyed emotion, so it didn’t go so well. The battle scenes are ok, if a little cookie-cutter.
Point: Independence Day
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Story
Independence Day: Aliens intend to invade Earth and drain the planet of its natural resources, but are defeated by Jeff Goldblum’s laptop.
The Patriot: A war veteran is too much of a wuss to fight in the Revolutionary War until his son joins up. Stuff happens blah blah blah and he has to take bloody revenge against a British cartoon villain.
Point: The Patriot
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Effects
Independence Day: Say what you want about the script, but the visual effects were top-notch, particularly the initial destruction scenes, which were done practically, for the most part.
The Patriot: Mostly cannonball debris.
Point: Independence Day
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Music
Independence Day: Composed by David Arnold, who went on to do a slew of Bond films. It’s not bad and has a nice brooding danger element to it mixed with jingoism.
The Patriot: The Patriot was surprisingly scored by the infallible John Williams, so of course it’s very good. It kind of sounds like if Indiana Jones was set in the late 1700s with a lot more flutes.
Point: The Patriot
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Awards
Independence Day: Won: Best Visual Effects Nominated: Best Sound
The Patriot: Nominated: Best Cinematography; Best Music, Original Score; Best Sound
Point: Independence Day
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Legacy
Independence Day: Extremely dumb but a lot of fun with a plethora of memorable quotes, Independence Day proved once and for all that Hollywood can make a blockbuster movie that doesn’t have to make sense or give the audience any connection to the characters and it can make gobs of money as long as the special effects overwhelm all your other senses.
The Patriot: Nobody remembers this movie. The only reason I remember it is because I saw a giant billboard on the side of a building for it every time I took the train into Manhattan for my college internship.
Point: Independence Day
Freedom over alien oppressors trumps freedom over British oppressors! Although they are both still a constant threat. Happy 4th of July!
What do you think? Did we score the fight fair? Which movie won on your scorecard?
“I don’t know how official any of these rankings are.” – Seinfeld. lol.
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Aww I thought you meant the classic Steven Seagal v White Supremacists classic ‘The Patriot’. It beats both of these
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Oh my god. I need to see that film.
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I think Catherine Deneuve just needs to get out of this nightie in Repulsion.
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Independence Day should win all the awards! So much great 90s nostalgia.
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both are fun movies. great post Brian!
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Jeff Goldblum always wins.
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Love both movies, both so cheesy and delicious.
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Dumb girl I work with (Shoes the Numpty) asked what Independence Day was. She had no idea. So I told her it’s a day to celebrate defeating aliens & that they made a film about it. Yes, she believed me. No, really. I’m serious.
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She’s so hot.
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